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MPs in controversial Labour WhatsApp group ought to by no means have been in parliament, says Harman

By Editorial Board Published February 14, 2025 4 Min Read
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MPs in controversial Labour WhatsApp group ought to by no means have been in parliament, says Harman

Individuals who imagine the issues posted in a controversial Labour WhatsApp group should not have been MPs within the first place, based on Harriet Harman.

Talking on the Electoral Dysfunction podcast, the veteran Labour parliamentarian mentioned the scandal was “very serious” as the general public already thinks MPs are “contemptuous of their voters”.

Ms Harman was a Labour MP for 42 years and now sits within the Home of Lords.

The scandal over the “Trigger Me Timbers” WhatsApp group has seen former well being minister Andrew Gwynne sacked from the federal government and suspended from the Labour Occasion.

Fellow MP Oliver Ryan has additionally been suspended from the get together.

Each males are nonetheless MPs.

And 11 councillors in Manchester have additionally been suspended, together with Mr Gwynne’s spouse.

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Andrew Gwynne, pictured in 2022. Pic: PA

Oliver Ryan MP
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Oliver Ryan MP. Pic: Home of Commons

Talking on the podcast, Ms Harman mentioned: “I feel it is very critical. One of many issues that folks take into consideration MPs is that they speak properly in public, however truly they’re contemptuous of their voters in personal.

“And they say one thing publicly, but they believe something completely different.

“And what this WhatsApp group has proven is precisely that.

“A lot of people have said, ‘oh, how stupid they were to write this down’, but I think it’s much more profound than that.

“I feel when you have obtained racist ideas, and you have antisemitic beliefs, and in case you’ve obtained contempt for the folks you are presupposed to be representing, you should not be an MP.

“It’s not that you shouldn’t write it down in a WhatsApp group.

“You should not be an MP within the first place.”

Andrew Gwynne thumbnail for Electoral Dysfunction

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Well being minister Andrew Gwynne was sacked over the ‘Set off Me Timbers’ WhatsApp group scandal

Ms Harman mentioned that Mr Ryan and Mr Gwynne wouldn’t have been chosen by their native Labour department to run as MPs if the contents of the WhatsApp group have been identified.

She added: “Keir Starmer was absolutely right to not miss a beat, but to say all of these people – they shouldn’t be in the Labour Party.

“And that comes with political dangers, as a result of if there are by-elections, these shall be very troublesome by-elections.”

Former Scottish Tory chief Ruth Davidson reckons that the chance of voluntary by-elections was unlikely.

She advised the podcast: “We’re about six months into a parliament.

“There’s 4 and a half years of accumulating a £90,000 plus wage that they will each have, whether or not they’ve obtained the Labour whip or not.

“I don’t think they’re going to voluntarily resign and refight their seat.”

She additionally identified that, as each males symbolize seats in and round Larger Manchester, Sir Keir Starmer and Labour can be competing in opposition to Reform greater than the Conservative Occasion, which he’ll need to keep away from because it might give Nigel Farage’s get together momentum.

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