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It’s been a bit of greater than a yr since trade icon Sherry Chris stepped down from the helm of Higher Houses and Gardens Actual Property and ERA Actual Property, and commenced her subsequent chapter as a really energetic retiree. Chris nonetheless serves as the chief advisor for Wherever Manufacturers, the host of the What Strikes Her podcast, and infrequently seems on the levels of the trade’s main conferences in her trademark black and Pantone pink.
Regardless of her jet-set schedule, Chris mentioned she’s residing lighter than ever, due to a renewed concentrate on her well being and wellness, embracing a extra minimalistic way of life, and increasing her cultural horizons with temporary stints residing in Italy and Greece. Chris mentioned these experiences have made her happier and more healthy — which explains the resplendent glow on the previous CEO’s face as she Zoomed Inman from a resort room in Vegas.
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“I wish that I had prioritized all of this earlier in my life. And, you know, so if people say, ‘Do you have any regrets?’ she said. “I’d say, I never have regrets because it’s all part of the journey. But if I could go back and prioritize my health, prioritize travel, and understand the importance of really connecting at a deeper level with people, I would have had this happiness for a longer period of time.”
Forward of Join Austin, Chris sat down with Inman to speak about retirement, journey, and her unrelenting dedication to ladies’s empowerment in actual property and past. This Q&A has been edited for size and readability.
Inman: Whats up, Sherry! It’s good to speak to you. I believe the final time we spoke, you’d simply retired. How has the previous yr been for you in transitioning from a day-to-day govt position into what you’re doing now?
Chris: Nicely, you understand, it has been a yr, and let’s see — Might, June, July, August — it’s been a yr and 4 months since my official retirement. The day after the announcement, I actually hit the bottom operating in my advisory position and it’s been very busy, however very, very rewarding.
One of many tasks that I’m engaged on initially is constructing the What Strikes Her Girls’s Community inside Wherever and past. Since I took over as co-chair of that with Lindsay Listanski, who’s my Coldwell Banker colleague, now we have constructed a weblog, and we’ve launched a podcast. And really Emily, your CEO, goes to be on the podcast quickly.
And for myself, I’ve been touring throughout the nation to varied conferences, together with Join, speaking about empowering ladies [and] facilitating panels for ladies. Final week, I used to be at our Sotheby’s Worldwide Realty Convention in Nashville and the Higher Houses and Gardens Actual Property Brokers Convention in Huntington Seaside. It was simply nice to be interacting with all of these individuals.
It’s superior that you just’ve been so energetic. In relation to your work for ladies’s empowerment, what retains you motivated to maintain investing in that motion? And regardless of the strides in feminine management, why can we nonetheless want that messaging? What conversations nonetheless have to be had about ladies’s experiences in actual property?
It’s an important query, and my reply is twofold. To start with, after I began the management a part of my profession, which was a few years in the past, I used to be the one girl and the youngest. I all the time wished to have the chance to provide again and assist different ladies, significantly younger ladies, obtain their objectives, whether or not it’s in actual property or regardless of the case could also be. In order that hasn’t modified. My ardour stays, and I really feel it’s nonetheless very vital as a result of it’s not equal.
Girls in CEO and management roles versus males at our firm Wherever, now we have a disproportionately massive variety of ladies in management, which is unbelievable. However not each firm has that and never each trade has that. So it’s nonetheless necessary to have a platform the place ladies can inform their tales, really feel snug, community with each other, and surpass their objectives by having the chance to be with different ladies and be impressed by different ladies, and males, too, as a result of What Strikes Her is not only a girl’s community.
We’ve got many males who take part and are additionally very supportive of ladies within the workforce. So it’s only a nice platform. We’re presently within the means of launching native committees, that are like native chapters. So now it’s the time to broaden What Strikes Her and create eventualities the place native teams can get collectively in individual. It’s rewarding and vital.
What can different brokerages and franchises take from Wherever’s playbook relating to constructing a powerful lineup of feminine leaders? Why has Wherever been so profitable in figuring out potential leaders after which supporting them with coaching and a transparent path to reaching their govt objectives?
It begins on the prime, and our CEO, Ryan Schneider, is an especially collaborative CEO. He understands the advantage of surrounding himself with nice individuals, and most of the C-suite executives who report on to him are ladies. So when it begins on the prime like that, it makes it simpler to cascade all through the group as a result of what he’s completed is constructed a tradition of inclusiveness and alternative for everybody.
One of many issues that we do at Wherever is now we have numerous worker useful resource teams; we name them ERGs. These completely different teams can and do meet usually and have govt sponsors lead them and information them, in order that motion additionally creates a spot the place everybody feels snug. I believe that our firm, Wherever, is a superb chief in that regard. We don’t simply discuss it, we truly observe it each day.
I like that. Inclusive areas are actually necessary for development. I’m going to shift actual fast and discuss your newest LinkedIn submit about touring and dealing remotely. It’s been attention-grabbing to see the way you’ve dealt with retirement — lots of people typically daydream about it however are fully misplaced on what to do as soon as they attain it. I’d simply like to know extra about the way you’ve approached this a part of your life.
Nicely, thanks for noticing that. And sure, I might love to speak about that.
So to begin with, after I stepped down in Might of 2023, I made a dedication to myself to grow to be wholesome. I had been the CEO of two world actual property manufacturers. I used to be touring extensively. I actually wasn’t taking good care of myself. I used to be taking good care of quite a lot of different individuals. So my journey to well being and wellness has been an extended one, and it’s by no means simple, however I modified my consuming habits. I eat clear. I don’t eat processed meals anymore. I’ve a exercise plan and schedule, and I’ve actually shifted my priorities to longevity and wellness.
The second piece of it was that I wished to expertise the world, not as a vacationer, however as a traveler residing in several international locations and attending to know the completely different cultures. I felt that will assist me each personally and professionally, and it actually has. So in that weblog submit that you just had been speaking about on LinkedIn, I talked about the truth that one of many issues that I did was simplify my journey by touring with carry-on baggage solely.
So, for 2 months this yr, I traveled, and with a carry-on, you need to actually plan what you’re going to take with you and what you’re going to do. It’s important to remind your self that it doesn’t matter that you just don’t have that additional pair of sneakers, et cetera. That was, you understand, actually a really attention-grabbing train that helped me in different methods as nicely. It helped me understand that I don’t want all the complexities that I had surrounding me earlier than that. Life is absolutely in regards to the relationships that you’ve, not the objects that you’ve acquired.
In 2023, I spent a month residing in Lucca, Italy, and I invited pals to come back and go to throughout that point interval. And I cherished it. This yr, I spent two months touring largely in Greece, and I completely loved assembly the individuals, studying extra about tradition and the way they eat — that Mediterranean weight-reduction plan may be very wholesome. And so subsequent yr, my plans are nicely underway for an additional attention-grabbing journey.
Your expertise jogs my memory of a journalist and podcaster I take heed to who’s chronicled her life overseas. She bounces between Ghana, South Africa, England, France and the U.S, and he or she typically talks about how touring has fully remodeled her life.
Some of the liberating components of all of it is touring by yourself. It opens you as much as speaking to all various kinds of individuals. I’ve made so many pals alongside the best way, and I do know we’ll be lifelong pals.
And proper now, I reside in two completely different places. I reside in Palm Seaside and Toronto, and I’m already occupied with what that’s going to appear like sooner or later. Do I want that or ought to I journey extra? After we take into consideration COVID and the whole lot that occurred round it, we regularly speak in regards to the unhealthy, however some silver linings appeared, and one in all them was having the ability to efficiently work from anyplace. All you want is your telephone, your iPad and a laptop computer. When you’ve got the pliability to take calls in the course of the night time due to the time zone distinction and are keen to try this, all of it works out.
That’s one of many issues I like about working for Inman. Working remotely does provide the flexibility to expertise extra, and I’d like to journey like you’ve. With that in thoughts, what recommendation would you give to somebody my age the place retirement continues to be just a few many years away? How can we steadiness our skilled and private lives higher now?
I’ll begin by saying, I want that I had prioritized all of this earlier in my life. So if individuals say, do you’ve any regrets? I by no means have regrets as a result of it’s all a part of the journey. But when I may return and prioritize my well being, prioritize journey, and perceive the significance of actually connecting at a deeper degree with individuals, I might have had this happiness for an extended time period.
So you might want to do it now, and I like the truth that you’re listening to podcasts. I believe it’s necessary to have like a bunch of individuals — a well being buddy or a well being coach or a well being mentor — simply somebody who will maintain you accountable to do sure issues. Monitoring the whole lot is essential, so hold a journal. In going to Italy final month, it was for me a daring transfer. I’ve traveled to over 30 international locations, however it’s all the time been holidays the place you go and see the Eiffel Tower or one thing. This wasn’t that. This was immersing your self within the tradition.
So I strongly urge you and different younger individuals to try this. I’m going to test in with you and see what your progress is.
Sure, ma’am! It was fantastic speaking to you and I can’t wait to see you on the stage in Austin.
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